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Mais cedo ou mais tarde, alguém precisa de ir ao dentista para fazer um "check-up". Gostaria de pedir contactos/recomendações de dentistas que falem inglês (ou português se possivel) e que tenham acordo com o seguro de saude VZP.
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Estou exactamente á procura do mesmo.
Pela investigação que fiz na net encontrei estes que falam Inglês:
parece ser bastante VIP,estavam 1 ou 2 miss Rep. Checa na inauguração, fotos no site, portanto presumo que nao dever ser nada barato
estes 2 são em Karlin, Krizikova metro a aceitam vouchers accor de saude
aceita vouchers accor de saude mas não tem acordo com seguradoras
A sensação que tenho é que estes locais onde se fala inglês podem ser significativamente mais caros que um dentista tradicional
Outros locais com o Canadian Medical Centre, focados nos estrangeiros, ainda mais caros são e devem ser evitados
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Artigo no Expats.cz
Czech Dental Experiences and Advice
published 27.4.09 | comments (7)
Written by Eva Howlings
A trip to a foreign dentist’s office is one of those landmark moments that separate the tourists from the expats. Teeth are the very symbol of human permanence and a trip to the tooth doctor (for anything other than an emergency) is something you only do when you too are permanent. Fortunately for us Czech expats, dentistry practiced in the Czech Republic is of the same high standard as other developed countries. All the same procedures one might expect in Great Britain or the United States can be found here, and the prices are quite reasonable. Some people even take dental holidays to Prague – a bit of sightseeing combined with having some work done – because the quality-to-price ratio is so inviting. The question for many boils down to who can speak enough English to have me as a patient and where can I go for a high quality, affordable experience?
If money is no object, there are excellent private clinics in Prague that accommodate English as well as other foreign language speakers; and they can have you in and out in no time. On the other hand, once you’ve paid your mandatory medical insurance, you probably want to use it and go with a local doctor who accepts VZP and OZP, and speaks “enough” English. This article isn’t meant to cover the intricacies of various insurance schemes but I will discuss how coverage is handled.
Since arriving in Prague I’ve had a filling at American Dental (www.americandental.cz) (really great service), and a pointy tooth filed down at European Dental Center (www.edcdental.cz) (nice office, international and capable staff) for which I paid out of pocket. Once I got VZP, I registered as a patient at a Czech “stomatologicky” clinic called Stomatologické Centrum (www.stomacentrum.cz). I chose them because of the central location, very modern facilities and a recommendation from a friend. I ended up staying because the prices are reasonable and the staff, who are young and approachable, take time to discuss things with you.
My first cleaning and x-rays there were fine, then I got pregnant and didn’t have anything done for while. When I returned – lo and behold – I needed root canal. I had never experienced any discomfort with this tooth so it came as a complete surprise.
My doctor was friendly, conscientious and had a good, steady hand. I sat through the ordeal like a good patient (tongue poised out of the way, never needing reminders to keep my mouth open, breathing deeply and trying to relax, despite the deep drilling and lots of vibrations in my jaw.) At last it was over – or so I thought. They needed to repeat the same process three more times! In fact, this “canal” had only been hollowed out and temporarily filled, the trick now was to wait for any remaining nerve in there to die completely before filling the canal with permanent composite. My co-pay after this ordeal was tiny – 350 CZK, I think. “Bargain!” I thought as I breezed out. But that’s not how payments really work.
The next visit involved filling that canal and drilling a new one. First the dentist drills right into the affected canal inside the tooth. This is where the nerve lives. Once a tube has been hollowed out, they twirl around in there with a mini bristle brush (the kind you can buy to clean between teeth) of increasing diameter. If your teeth are close to the nerve, like mine are you swear you can feel it, despite the local anesthetic. This time I was charged 2,000 or 3,000 CZK. And the next appointment wasn’t for about another two months. Each subsequent appointment that involved the composite material cost the same, so in total the procedure cost around 8,000 CZK and lasted half a year. The tooth, a rear molar, looks and feels great now, so I’m satisfied.
One of the dentists there comes highly recommended by users of this site. He has read the posts here relating to dentistry and wanted to clarify some misconceptions. He explained that VZP (and the other plans) cover certain procedures, materials and preventative care. “Certain” in this case means what the insurance company acknowledges as satisfactory. They are often not necessarily the best choice in terms of long-term stability and success, despite statistics that support this. Usually these options are also the cheapest.
So while some Expats.cz members say they paid only 400 or 500 CZK for a root canal, this only means the dentist went with the cheapest possible materials and VZP covered it fully. When performing a root canal you can fix the tooth with one of three procedures: the budget filler (with a 50/50 chance of it being sustainable), the next step up (with better odds) and finally the “top shelf” filling. VZP pays only for the cheapest material and does not cover high-end materials even partially. If you go with the state-of-the-art filler, which is recommended, you’re left paying for the whole thing.
Whether private or not, the “nicer” clinics may choose to work with only high quality materials. For one thing, they don’t want to see the same client back in the chair and have to redo the same tooth. Waiting periods at reputable local clinics are long - up to six months for new patients. Since the books are always filled, they prefer doing work that is built to last. You can opt for the low rent materials, and a low fee, at less advanced clinics, but your nice white filling may turn dark. Or you may not get a white filling at all, even for a visible tooth, because VZP doesn’t cover white fillings except for front teeth and only for minors (under 18 years of age).
Of course this is not a priority for everyone but it’s good to know the underlying principle behind the price disparity. You are not getting ripped off; you’re paying for reliable work. And across the board, prices here are still very reasonable. But be warned – if you make recommendations on Expats and provide phone numbers right in the post you are directly affecting your own wait time. The dentist in question noticed a spike in new patients after someone mentioned it was easy to get an appointment with him – which is now no longer the case. But he wanted to leave the information on the site anyway because as he put it, there is a limited number of good dentists who speak English well and accept VZP, OZP and other typical, local plans.
Wisdom Tooth Extraction:
I had been planning for several decades to get rid of my wisdom teeth but it never qualified as an emergency. They would hurt for a few days, as they pressed against the gums trying to burst through, and then retract again. Apart from mild headaches, I wasn’t bothered. But when I noticed my lower teeth were no longer straight like they’d been in my 20’s, I had to act. It turns out they were impacted and the lower one had even managed to get a cavity despite being mostly buried in the gum. It actually happens a lot; the surface gets exposure to bacteria and then retracts, becoming impossible to clean.
I learned a lot about wisdom teeth. They’re called “zuby moudrosti” in Czech, or “osmičky” because of their position as the eighth tooth. Interesting side note; not everyone has wisdom teeth – it’s a genetic thing. And for those who do have them; not everyone needs to have them removed; it depends on the size of your jaw. My jaw is tiny and the wisdom teeth – all four of them – were determined to grow anyway. According to my dentist, extraction on a face as delicate as mine (why, thank you!) is risky because the jaw is easily fractured. On top of that, my lower nerve is nestled in and amongst the roots of the teeth – which all adds up to a tricky procedure. It doesn’t have to be, and for many it’s not. And the younger you are, the faster you’ll heal.
Before doing anything, my doctor took me through the entire process, explaining the risks. He showed me my x-ray and circled the problem area where the nerve cross-sectioned the roots of the back teeth. He discussed aftercare and just generally blew me away with the level of discussion. I’ve been here eight years now and have seen all kinds of doctors, private and public. I have found each and every doctor to be qualified and professional but not all of them like to discuss things with you (as much as I’d like anyway.) It’s understandable, with a waiting room full of desperate patients. But sometimes there’s a condescending edge of “You’re not qualified to discuss this. Don’t question me.”
My doctor informed me well about the procedure, which made me less scared. I also watched a Youtube video demonstrating the procedure. This was ill-advised. Don’t do it!
It took me over a week to recover, and pain-wise it was second only to labor. Prescription painkillers weren’t offered, so I didn’t ask. It turned out if I’d let him know I was hurting so much, he would have written a prescription, but I wanted to be brave and am currently nursing, so I suffered for about ten days. Yes, we in America go over the top with the painkillers, but the idea that Czech doctors categorically refuse to prescribe them is wrong. Just be honest with your doctor. They’re not monsters, and an experience doesn’t have to be any scarier just because it’s happening in the Czech Republic.
For more information on dentistry in Prague; read this overview or check our business directory.
Article Published 27.4.09 | Last Updated 11.5.09
Comment from: Karen published 5.5.2009
I've been in Prague off and on for 7 years and have seen 4 dentists. At American Dental, it's impossible to see the actual dentist if you only want a cleaning. How can they call themselves "American Dental" if the dentist doesn't come in after the cleaning and poke around for 2 minutes like EVERY American dentist I have ever been to? At European Dental, they just seemed like sales people, trying to get me to buy an implant and other stuff. The other two were Czech dentists and they only used sound to clean my teeth - not the scraper. My teeth felt the same afterwards as they did before. There was no clean, smooth feeling you get after a proper cleaning. I need to have a bridge replaced and will be doing it in the US. I've had enough of Czech dentists.
Comment from: Justin published 28.4.2009
Hey folks. English-speaking dental students on the international course at Charles Uni are in need of patients to work on - checkups, cleaning and fillings if need be. All for free of course, and under the supervision of a professor. So get in touch if you need. There's a post on the forum about it with all the details.
Comment from: Dr. Hauser published 28.4.2009
Not true. Certain clinics are overpriced and it is not coming from the materials. The difference in the root canal fillers is 150 to 500 kc depending on the vendor. This is a very standard procedure with outcome depending from how well the canal will be cleaned and prepared for filling. The filler itself is the final step without much of an importance. Paying over 1000 kc above the VZP is not necessary.
Comment from: squidge published 28.4.2009
Hmmmm. I went for a check up over a year ago at the dentistry you recommended in your article and it wasn’t good. I was told that I would need 6 cavities repaired and a root canal (At the time I was told that the root canal was very urgent). I was then given a total of 9 separate appointments!!!! (6 for cavities + 3 for the root canal). I told them they must be joking with me but no they were serious. For a second opinion I visited my regular dentist in the UK for a check up and was told that my teeth weren’t perfect but it wasn’t necessary to have any work carried out. To be on the safe side I booked an appointment with another dentist in Prague and guess what - nothing needed repairing. I was concerned that the supposed root canal would flare up and catch me out but over a year later and I havn’t had any problems.
Comment from: izzy published 27.4.2009
I had a wisdom tooth removed at DentActiv 2 years ago. Despite severe pain they refused to prescribe me a narcotic painkiller. Instead they prescribed me a non-narcotic painkiller which had a negative reaction to my medication and left me vomiting for 24 hours. I had to go elsewhere after that.
Comment from: Peter Andrews published 27.4.2009
"because the quality-to-price ratio is so inviting." You have to be joking! Czech dentists are barbaric, and not worth any amount of money saved. The American Dental Center is as expensive as dentists in the West. Given that for 1000Kc one can hop across the border and get the job done properly, why bother? Instead of recommending places "because they took the time to talk to me", do so on the basis of the competence (if any) of the dentists who work there.
Comment from: Stephan published 27.4.2009
I got a list from VZP with all dentists that have contract with them. You can call the VZP client center at: 221 752 175. There is a English language menu option and waiting times on the phone are reasonable.
Ou seja chegámos à conclusão que... estamos tramados com a saúde dentária por cá!
Existe também a possibilidade de ser cobaia dos estudantes finalistas de medicina dentária da universidade Karlovo...
Ver mensagem no expats.cz : http://www.expats.cz/prague/t-223607.html
E que cobaias ! :)
Pelo que falei com alguns colegas de trabalho... até chegaram ao ponto de me dizerem.... Acorda cedo, pega num
autocarro e vai a um dentista a Viena. 2 deles já perderam dentes devido à incompetência dos dentistas checos.
Parece que vou aguardar pela próxima vez que for a Portugal ou então irei mesmo a Viena.
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Oi malta, encontrei um dentista que fala ingles, 5min a pe' do metro de Dejvicka. Infelizmente o dentista nao tem acordo com seguro de saude VZP mas os precos sao acessiveis. O site tem contacto e tabela de precos.
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MUDr.Pavel Michalek -dentista
Vítězné nám. 10
Praga 6 (estacao de metro Dejvicka )
TEL :224322937 (fala alemao,espanhol, frances, portugues)
Este dentista aceita VZP?
Obrigado pela sue mensagem . Si, aceitamos tambem VZP .
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